An observation in the movie "Second Hand Lions" Message of Suicide!
Suicide message in the movie SecondHand Lions
A conversation with my brother in law:
tony: Have you seen the movie Second Hand Lions?
JD: Yeah.
tony: What did you think of it?
JD: Well. er, um, it had some things I liked.
tony: Did you catch the message?
JD: Not really...
tony: What was portrayed as bad in the movie?
JD: A few things I guess...as parents, we monitor a movie scene by scene...there was glorifying of violence, the fight scenes you know.
tony:Most adults I've asked said it was Walter's mother. But a child I asked said it was that the two men killed themselves at the end. And he was RIGHT. The movie is about SUICIDE.
JD: Really?
tony: Yes. Think about the scenes. (Described below) Notice how at the end the sheriff calls, and they are in agreement about how preferable their death was? And also no one is sad and morning their death. Why? Did they go to heaven?
JD: You're right, and that scene is also at the beginning of the movie, for emphasis I guess.
tony: You're right.
tony: If you watch the movie again, with this in mind, you'll see it very clearly.
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I went home, took notes, and here they are. I am in complete agreement with him in his asessment. Read the notes yourself, see the hidden message.
The numbers denote the time that the comment occurs.
Breakfast
Uncle Hub: ȁWe're a couple of 'has-beens' talking about the past.”
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min16:45
Uncle Garth: “Gardening is what retired people do...it's good for you...live to be 100.”
Uncle Hub: ȁYOU live to be 100.”
(meaning: I want to die)
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min 27:30
Uncle Garth: “A man's body grows old but his spirit is still young and restless”
(meaning: Die)
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45m:45s
Jasmine has been promised by her father.
(A biblical Practice: Why is this even mentioned? to discredit the bible? )
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min 46:00
Jasmine wants to kill herself rather than marry the 'bad' sheik
(The movie makes him out to be BAD but says nothing about her father changing his promise)
(self-murder (Suicide) is still killing someone Only now you are DEAD, and there is no repentance after death)
( Is it worth going to hell for?)
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min 49:00
“...we garden...we have outlived our time.”
(meaning: It is time to end our life)
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1h:04m
“I'm old and worn out.”
(meaning: I want to die.)
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Hr 1:06
“...never set foot in an airplane...they're plenty dangerous.”
(meaning: I do not care now because I intend to kill myself.)
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Hr 1:07
Uncle Garth: “Did you ask about Jasmine yet?”
Walter: “No.”
Uncle Garth: “Well, you had better make it quick.”
(Meaning: He is getting ready to kill himself.)
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Hr 1:12:55
Walter: “You have to stick around till I'm a man, to give me the whole speech.”
Uncle Hub:“I will write it down.”
(meaning: I intend to not be here then because I indend to kill myself.)
Walter: “If you don't stick around, we'll all miss you.”
(Meaning: you are choosing to not be here.)
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Hr 1:34:45
Walter: ȁ...on a few conditions. 1.You two have to agree to stay until I'm through high school, at least. Preferably through college. 2. No more dangerous stuff...(like fighting with young people and flying airplanes.)....
Uncle Hub: “What do you expect, us to die of, old age?”
(Meaning: We are planing to end our lifes before then.)
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Hr 1:36:53
Sheriff: “It's a blessing they did not suffer. It's a blessing they went out together.”
(They Killed themselves and it is called a blessing.)
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Hr 1:38:45
Plane wrecked/crashed upside-down in side of barn no window or door
Sheriff: “Two 90 year old men...went out with their boots on.”
(and now the town's official says thay died with honor.)
(maybe he said that because 90 year olds have lived long enough?)
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Hr 1:41:45
Walter: “Yeah, they really lived.”
Notice how at 1hr:36m:53, a self murder is described as a blessing: "It's a blessing they did not suffer". Well Knowing there is life hereafter I hope these small blessings are worth the effort for eternity. I do believe that God is willing to forgive murder, but with self murder there is no time to repent being you are now dead, and now having to face the judgement.
I'm convinced that the adversary doesn't drone on with a long lecture, but rather, will use an entertaining song, movie, or other medium to deliver a single message.
"..we are not ignorant of his devices" 2 Corinthians 2:11:)
tony: Have you seen the movie Second Hand Lions?
JD: Yeah.
tony: What did you think of it?
JD: Well. er, um, it had some things I liked.
tony: Did you catch the message?
JD: Not really...
tony: What was portrayed as bad in the movie?
JD: A few things I guess...as parents, we monitor a movie scene by scene...there was glorifying of violence, the fight scenes you know.
tony:Most adults I've asked said it was Walter's mother. But a child I asked said it was that the two men killed themselves at the end. And he was RIGHT. The movie is about SUICIDE.
JD: Really?
tony: Yes. Think about the scenes. (Described below) Notice how at the end the sheriff calls, and they are in agreement about how preferable their death was? And also no one is sad and morning their death. Why? Did they go to heaven?
JD: You're right, and that scene is also at the beginning of the movie, for emphasis I guess.
tony: You're right.
tony: If you watch the movie again, with this in mind, you'll see it very clearly.
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I went home, took notes, and here they are. I am in complete agreement with him in his asessment. Read the notes yourself, see the hidden message.
The numbers denote the time that the comment occurs.
Breakfast
Uncle Hub: ȁWe're a couple of 'has-beens' talking about the past.”
---------------------------------------------------------------
min16:45
Uncle Garth: “Gardening is what retired people do...it's good for you...live to be 100.”
Uncle Hub: ȁYOU live to be 100.”
(meaning: I want to die)
------------------------------------------------------------
min 27:30
Uncle Garth: “A man's body grows old but his spirit is still young and restless”
(meaning: Die)
-------------------------------------------------------
45m:45s
Jasmine has been promised by her father.
(A biblical Practice: Why is this even mentioned? to discredit the bible? )
-------------------------------------------------------
min 46:00
Jasmine wants to kill herself rather than marry the 'bad' sheik
(The movie makes him out to be BAD but says nothing about her father changing his promise)
(self-murder (Suicide) is still killing someone Only now you are DEAD, and there is no repentance after death)
( Is it worth going to hell for?)
-------------------------------------------------------
min 49:00
“...we garden...we have outlived our time.”
(meaning: It is time to end our life)
-------------------------------------------------------
1h:04m
“I'm old and worn out.”
(meaning: I want to die.)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:06
“...never set foot in an airplane...they're plenty dangerous.”
(meaning: I do not care now because I intend to kill myself.)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:07
Uncle Garth: “Did you ask about Jasmine yet?”
Walter: “No.”
Uncle Garth: “Well, you had better make it quick.”
(Meaning: He is getting ready to kill himself.)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:12:55
Walter: “You have to stick around till I'm a man, to give me the whole speech.”
Uncle Hub:“I will write it down.”
(meaning: I intend to not be here then because I indend to kill myself.)
Walter: “If you don't stick around, we'll all miss you.”
(Meaning: you are choosing to not be here.)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:34:45
Walter: ȁ...on a few conditions. 1.You two have to agree to stay until I'm through high school, at least. Preferably through college. 2. No more dangerous stuff...(like fighting with young people and flying airplanes.)....
Uncle Hub: “What do you expect, us to die of, old age?”
(Meaning: We are planing to end our lifes before then.)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:36:53
Sheriff: “It's a blessing they did not suffer. It's a blessing they went out together.”
(They Killed themselves and it is called a blessing.)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:38:45
Plane wrecked/crashed upside-down in side of barn no window or door
Sheriff: “Two 90 year old men...went out with their boots on.”
(and now the town's official says thay died with honor.)
(maybe he said that because 90 year olds have lived long enough?)
-------------------------------------------------------
Hr 1:41:45
Walter: “Yeah, they really lived.”
Notice how at 1hr:36m:53, a self murder is described as a blessing: "It's a blessing they did not suffer". Well Knowing there is life hereafter I hope these small blessings are worth the effort for eternity. I do believe that God is willing to forgive murder, but with self murder there is no time to repent being you are now dead, and now having to face the judgement.
I'm convinced that the adversary doesn't drone on with a long lecture, but rather, will use an entertaining song, movie, or other medium to deliver a single message.
"..we are not ignorant of his devices" 2 Corinthians 2:11:)
